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Fergie voted manager of the year by LMA

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Sir Alex Ferguson has been awarded the League Managers’ Association manager of the year award, after United landed their 10th Premier League title. He has also led United to the Champions League final in Moscow where they will face Chelsea on the 21st May in the first all-English final in the history of the competition.

The award was voted for by members of the LMA and takes account the performance of all managers during the season.

So who would have been your choice? Do you agree with the LMA?

 
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well as expected the winner of The Premier League gets the award .....maybe a bit premature though ....i would say thoroughly deserved if Man Utd also win the Champions League next week . But if Chelsea win then Avram Grant you could say has done just as well as Fergie ...maybe better ...Chelsea also got to the Carling Cup Final ....

 
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Avram Grant has picked up more points than Fergu since he began coaching Chelsea, picking Chelsea up from where Jose left them (mid-table) so in theory he should've won the league and he's also reached a CL final. If he actually had won the Premier League it would've been him.

1. Grant
2. Fergus
3. Wenger

 
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well exactly ....whoever wins the Premier League gets the award ..yet the season has not ended yet . When was the decision made ...before last sunday .. ?

 
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Avram Grant has picked up more points than Fergu since he began coaching Chelsea, picking Chelsea up from where Jose left them (mid-table) so in theory he should've won the league and he's also reached a CL final. If he actually had won the Premier League it would've been him.

1. Grant
2. Fergus
3. Wenger


Since Grant hasn't put in a full season then maybe he shouldn't be in consideration at all.

 
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well exactly ....whoever wins the Premier League gets the award ..yet the season has not ended yet . When was the decision made ...before last sunday .. ?


That is incorrect Conner.

Here are the winners since 2000

2000-01 George Burley - Ipswich Town
2001-02 Arsene Wenger - Arsenal
2002-03 David Moyes - Everton
2003-04 Arsene Wenger - Arsenal
2004-05 David Moyes - Everton
2005-06 Steve Coppell - Reading
2006-07 Steve Coppell - Reading

2007-08 Sir Alex Ferguson - Manchester United

 
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conner99 wrote:
well exactly ....whoever wins the Premier League gets the award ..yet the season has not ended yet . When was the decision made ...before last sunday .. ?


That is incorrect Conner.

Here are the winners since 2000

2000-01 George Burley - Ipswich Town
2001-02 Arsene Wenger - Arsenal
2002-03 David Moyes - Everton
2003-04 Arsene Wenger - Arsenal
2004-05 David Moyes - Everton
2005-06 Steve Coppell - Reading
2006-07 Steve Coppell - Reading

2007-08 Sir Alex Ferguson - Manchester United


Steve Coppell must be a magician.

he won the premiersip manager of the year while managing in the championship?

what a man.

 
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O Dogg wrote:
conner99 wrote:
well exactly ....whoever wins the Premier League gets the award ..yet the season has not ended yet . When was the decision made ...before last sunday .. ?


That is incorrect Conner.

Here are the winners since 2000

2000-01 George Burley - Ipswich Town
2001-02 Arsene Wenger - Arsenal
2002-03 David Moyes - Everton
2003-04 Arsene Wenger - Arsenal
2004-05 David Moyes - Everton
2005-06 Steve Coppell - Reading
2006-07 Steve Coppell - Reading

2007-08 Sir Alex Ferguson - Manchester United


What! No one wanted to vote for Jose when he won ALL those trophies in 2 years. I wonder why!!!

 
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sorry ...have i got the wrong award mixed up ... Smile i was thinking of the Fa Premier League manager of the year award .... Embarassed

 
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O Dogg wrote:
conner99 wrote:
well exactly ....whoever wins the Premier League gets the award ..yet the season has not ended yet . When was the decision made ...before last sunday .. ?


That is incorrect Conner.

Here are the winners since 2000

2000-01 George Burley - Ipswich Town
2001-02 Arsene Wenger - Arsenal
2002-03 David Moyes - Everton
2003-04 Arsene Wenger - Arsenal
2004-05 David Moyes - Everton
2005-06 Steve Coppell - Reading
2006-07 Steve Coppell - Reading

2007-08 Sir Alex Ferguson - Manchester United


Steve Coppell must be a magician.

he won the premiersip manager of the year while managing in the championship?

what a man.


It is the League Managers’ Association manager of the year award. Didn't mention Premier League manager of the year Wink

 
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if thats the LMA list then that is one amazingly biased list.

is there a world outside the premierhisp anymore?

 
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if thats the LMA list then that is one amazingly biased list.

is there a world outside the premierhisp anymore?


This is for manager of the season in the Premier League I reckon? Wink

 
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*hits head against wall* lol Wink
Del Piero my fine Danish friend - please read my post above you. This is the League Managers’ Association manager of the year award. It could go to any manager of any club in the English Football League.

 
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What were Man United's expectations for the season?

id say winning the league and at the very least making the Champions League semi. so is ferguson's achievement this season, considering the vast amounts of cash he spent in the summer on adding to a squad that had won the league the previous year, really all that impressive?

i mean look at Stoke or Hull. id say that have had far more impressive seasons and have exceeded all expectations. as much as it pains me to say it even Ince has had a great season with MK Dons. winning the lower league equivalent of the double.

Bristol City being where they are is another example of exceeding expectations.

there are many examples of managers performing well above expectations and in my opinion making a bigger mark at their respective clubs than Ferguson. of course there is no glamour in giving the trophy to the manager of Franchise Dons or Stoke City so the premership monopoly rumbles on.

 
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What were Man United's expectations for the season?

id say winning the league and at the very least making the Champions League semi. so is ferguson's achievement this season, considering the vast amounts of cash he spent in the summer on adding to a squad that had won the league the previous year, really all that impressive?

i mean look at Stoke or Hull. id say that have had far more impressive seasons and have exceeded all expectations. as much as it pains me to say it even Ince has had a great season with MK Dons. winning the lower league equivalent of the double.

Bristol City being where they are is another example of exceeding expectations.

there are many examples of managers performing well above expectations and in my opinion making a bigger mark at their respective clubs than Ferguson. of course there is no glamour in giving the trophy to the manager of Franchise Dons or Stoke City so the premership monopoly rumbles on.


Each manager in the league has cast their vote so it's very difficult to argue against the weight of expert opinion from the people TRULY in the know. The vote can neither be viewed as biased, nor can it be viewed as undeserved. The vote is a reflection of the high esteem in which Sir Alex Ferguson is held by his fellow professionals that do exactly the same job as himself. Sir Alex Ferguson has stated that he believes the job is EASIER for him that it is for any other manager in football simply because of the club that he manages. He has an enormous squad of fantastic players at his disposal and enormous financial backing. Your arguments, Steely, would suggest that Avram Grant, in a similar situation to Sir Alex, has been an abject failure.

 
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according to wikipedia ....

The award is voted by fellow professional managers unlike the FA Premier League Manager of the Year and as a result consideration is also given for managers who inherit poor sides or financial difficulties and not only those managers who do not have such financial constraints and have won trophies.

Steve Coppell won the award twice in succession ....firstly ..for guiding Reading into the Premier League for the first time in their history ...the second year for guiding Reading to 8th place and only just missing out on a place in europe in theri first season in the top flight ...


He wasnt in contention this year i doubt ... Rolling Eyes

 
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Steely Hill wrote:
What were Man United's expectations for the season?

id say winning the league and at the very least making the Champions League semi. so is ferguson's achievement this season, considering the vast amounts of cash he spent in the summer on adding to a squad that had won the league the previous year, really all that impressive?

i mean look at Stoke or Hull. id say that have had far more impressive seasons and have exceeded all expectations. as much as it pains me to say it even Ince has had a great season with MK Dons. winning the lower league equivalent of the double.

Bristol City being where they are is another example of exceeding expectations.

there are many examples of managers performing well above expectations and in my opinion making a bigger mark at their respective clubs than Ferguson. of course there is no glamour in giving the trophy to the manager of Franchise Dons or Stoke City so the premership monopoly rumbles on.


Each manager in the league has cast their vote so it's very difficult to argue against the weight of expert opinion from the people TRULY in the know. The vote can neither be viewed as biased, nor can it be viewed as undeserved. The vote is a reflection of the high esteem in which Sir Alex Ferguson is held by his fellow professionals that do exactly the same job as himself. Sir Alex Ferguson has stated that he believes the job is EASIER for him that it is for any other manager in football simply because of the club that he manages. He has an enormous squad of fantastic players at his disposal and enormous financial backing. Your arguments, Steely, would suggest that Avram Grant, in a similar situation to Sir Alex, has been an abject failure.


its not difficult at all to argue with it. am i to take it as a fact that Ferguson has been the best manager this year because it was voted by LMA members? of course not. the weight of expert opinion? oh you do make me laugh. id love to see the full voting of this poll and see the top 10 managers. indeed it is a reflection of how Ferguson is viewed, thats the point. in the same way Ronaldo and many others have recieved many MOM awards despite doing pretty much nothing for 89 minutes of a game.

of course his job is easier than the job of managing Dagenham And Redbridge. thats pretty obvious to anybody with a brain surely.

ah theres the trademark bit of exaggeration we have all come to know and love. how on earth would it indicate that Avram Grant has been an abject failure?? i would imagine Grant has exceeded his expectations, if not met them. losing the title by 2 points on the final day of the season and reaching 2 cup finals is anything but an abject failure. good try though.

nobody has said ferguson has done a bad job. obviously not. what i am saying is that the performance of certain others surpasses him. particularly when resources, expectations and all other aspects are brought into the equation.

 
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The bloke who managed to get Stoke City promoted should win it, thats like Spurs winning the Champions League, or West Ham winning anything!


Na, well done to Air Alex. He has had a great season and throroughly deserves it imo.

 
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what i am saying is that the performance of certain others surpasses him. particularly when resources, expectations and all other aspects are brought into the equation.


Sir Alex probably agrees with you. He has said that he has it easier than any other manager.

 
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am i to take it as a fact that Ferguson has been the best manager this year because it was voted by LMA members? of course not.


Yes. You should be gracious in defeat. I know Curbs did quite well this year but finishing 10th doesn't warrant getting this award Wink

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