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  • shaggy
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Fair enough but saying he wants the police to give them all a doing is a bit on the extreme side of things dont you think?

 
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When he got one himself from the police for no reason

 
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Well thats the polices problem then, its not the general spanish public or the supporters that should suffer because the spanish have a crappy police force.

 
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re DFC TEVEZ DFC

As someone of Spanish origin who lives in England now I found your post out of order and insulting....

Were not all racist,passionate about football yes which I admit can be described as being over the top!

I'm not saying there is never any trouble at Spanish football grounds and I remember when England
played away in Spain a few years ago in Madrid and the Black players were subjected to monkey chants
through out the game....I was embarrassed to be Spanish that day like most of my fellow countrymen.

please remember Spain is only a young democracy and its only 30 odd years since Franco passed away.
not that that is an excuse but its going to be a while still until people know that all forms of racism is wrong.

 
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This should be locked

 
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it shouldnt.

it should be free of racist, idiotic comments like the one your mate posted.

i hope the spanish police gave him a good kicking, he quite obviously deserved it for being so narrow minded. how many spanish people does he think have been on the wrong end of a drunken attack from holidaying jocks over the years? therefore i imagine his logic applies in the reverse and he can now understand why he was attacked and can appreciate it.

and attacked for doing 'nothing'? yeah righto

 
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I know for sure football fans in England are not reflective of the general populace. Not all Spanish people are racist obviously but there is a vocal minority attending football matches who are and the Spanish authorities need to do a lot more to stamp it out.

 
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The problem is people here don't see it as racist attacks. They see it as another insult, not different from other insults like "son of a b*tch" or "b*stard", if you know what I mean.
Anyway, I'm sorry if you (DFC-TEVEZ) were unfairly treated by our police, but I'm quite disappointed at your comment. If you don't like it, why do you want the others to suffer it?
By the way, it's not true to say we don't respect the tourists. Spain is the country who most tourists receive per year in the world, I think that means something. If you are not well treated, I don't get why you keep coming. And don't tell me it's because here it's always sunny, cause there are other countries with a big sun in the sky. You must admit Spain is a good place for tourism, in almost every way.

 
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i agree. while never having actually been to mainland spain i have been to the Spanish Islands many times (Balearics etc) and have always found the people to be polite, clean, good humoured and good natured people.

i have no complaints about Spain or its people and can fully understand your reaction and disappointment at such comments.

in all honesty i can also understand how the whole 'racism' thing is played down in spain as well and how it is viewed as equal to any other insult. this country puts racism on a pedestal as though it is a taboo which only encourages it from some quarters anyway. combating racism is a two way street. simply saying 'you cant say this because its bad' just wont work.

 
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im quite intitled to what i said we were in spain and 2 english boys were being slashed to bits by this spaniard we then help them by taking the spaniards off them and the police became heavy handed with us we didnt hit the spanish boys we simply pulled them off and made sure they no longer had the weapons. As for it only being the police what bout the spanish people who gang rapend the aberdeen fan or the idiots who dip ur pockets when ur walking along the street or the tink who spat at us on our holiday for not going into his resturant thats spanish people down to a tee animals disgusting people

 
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get over it mate.

ive been to scotland and encountered several scummy scottish people in my time. heck many of the skag heads in london are scottish. perhaps we should all think that wat about your country.

the cheek of a jock to criticise another nation for being 'animals' and 'disgusting people' is hilarious. ive seen jocks p*ss in a pint glass and watch their drunken mate drink it. they are the animals. your country is appaling and the crime, drugs and teen pregnancies is nothing short of an embarrassment. get your own houe in order before criticising other nations.

 
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Wow Steely, I'm impressed. You're very respectful and I thank you for that.
Steely for president! Razz

Agree with every word you said, by the way.

 
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its a pleasure Raul.

i have never met a malicious, horrible spanish person in my life and will never accept people generalising and criticising the spanish people, particularly over the actions of a tiny few. i would hate for spanish members like yourself, who has always been humourous, respectful and generally a great member of the forum, to look in on this section and think that those views are common among british people.

i would hope that you too do not think for a moment that the view of those two are reflective of the rest of Britain.

 
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No, I don't think that, but it's always good to read things like what you posted to be sure. Of course there are stupid people over here, racists, nazis... etc, but not more than in any other country. That's what I think at least. I've been in London almost three years ago and I didn't have any problem, besides it's a very cosmopolitan city (as Madrid) so everyone respected eachother. My point is: I'm not gonna change my opinion of a country or city just because of a bunch of retarded people.

 
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see you have just dug yourself into a hole saying that. fans that are quoted by serveral managers and others as the best supporters in the world its you filthy mugs south of the border get on my whack too thugs whenever theres trouble from english fans they media brand it british to make it look like its the lot of us but its u stinking twats

 
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Steely Hill wrote:
get over it mate.

ive been to scotland and encountered several scummy scottish people in my time. heck many of the skag heads in london are scottish. perhaps we should all think that wat about your country.

the cheek of a jock to criticise another nation for being 'animals' and 'disgusting people' is hilarious. ive seen jocks p*ss in a pint glass and watch their drunken mate drink it. they are the animals. your country is appaling and the crime, drugs and teen pregnancies is nothing short of an embarrassment. get your own houe in order before criticising other nations.


Saying jock is racist to a scotsman. Fact

Your a racist.

Thats sad

 
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Steely Hill wrote:
its a pleasure Raul.

i have never met a malicious, horrible spanish person in my life and will never accept people generalising and criticising the spanish people, particularly over the actions of a tiny few. i would hate for spanish members like yourself, who has always been humourous, respectful and generally a great member of the forum, to look in on this section and think that those views are common among british people.

i would hope that you too do not think for a moment that the view of those two are reflective of the rest of Britain.


Why these 2?

Explain why me?

If not here pm be much appreciated

 
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DFC-TEVEZ-DFC wrote:
see you have just dug yourself into a hole saying that. fans that are quoted by serveral managers and others as the best supporters in the world its you filthy mugs south of the border get on my whack too thugs whenever theres trouble from english fans they media brand it british to make it look like its the lot of us but its u stinking twats


i have dug myself out of what hole?

oh so its english and spanish that 'get on your whack'? your ignorance spreads beyond the one nation does it? well done.

excellent. ive never seen a single example of english fans causing trouble that has been described as 'british' fans. perhaps you could point out some evidence to point this out. being as it so affects you it should not be a problem to provide a handful of links i would imagine... good luck.

i trust you will never visit england nor take any jobs down here then. we would not welcome your inbred backward tiny little brain here and you would be a hypocrite if you did wish to come down here and indeed to ever go to Spain or her Islands again.

usage of the terms 'filthy' and 'stinking' amuses me immensely considering the third world state of some of your slums in scotland. i hope you never leave your tin pot nation and let your xenophobia eat you alive

 
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Raul wrote:
The problem is people here don't see it as racist attacks. They see it as another insult, not different from other insults like "son of a b*tch" or "b*stard", if you know what I mean.
Anyway, I'm sorry if you (DFC-TEVEZ) were unfairly treated by our police, but I'm quite disappointed at your comment. If you don't like it, why do you want the others to suffer it?
By the way, it's not true to say we don't respect the tourists. Spain is the country who most tourists receive per year in the world, I think that means something. If you are not well treated, I don't get why you keep coming. And don't tell me it's because here it's always sunny, cause there are other countries with a big sun in the sky. You must admit Spain is a good place for tourism, in almost every way.


Spain = keep holiday, plus sun plus plenty english birds who are easy Rolling Eyes

 
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DFC-TEVEZ-DFC wrote:
see you have just dug yourself into a hole saying that. fans that are quoted by serveral managers and others as the best supporters in the world its you filthy mugs south of the border get on my whack too thugs whenever theres trouble from english fans they media brand it british to make it look like its the lot of us but its u stinking twats


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