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damn it. Looks like i won't be able to i've an opinion on this one after all,for some reason my dvr didn't record this game everything else but that one.
Could be a blessing though, got to keep my blood pressure down.

 
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It's pretty simple

Its never Arsene Wengers fault.

It's never the Arsenal's players fault.

It's always someone elses fault, and we should bow before the God (wenger) and the chosen few he has selected to be forever pretenders. ops.

 
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Laughing Poor old Arsenal.

It was a nailed on penalty, every time. To blame it on a Villa official asking the referee to explain a first half decision at half time is laughable.

 
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Benraul wrote:
Pokerkings01 wrote:
Do you really expect him to come out and slag his players off?


Wont happen.


No.

I also dont expect him to admit defeat or bow out of games with dignity either, so he is proving my right constantly.


Enough already i'm tred of these people accusing Wenger of being a bad loser and not giving credit where it's due.
Put up or shut up. show me evidence of this please.


Laughing Laughing

to quote the great John McEnroe 'You can not be serious'

 
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Of course he's a bad loser. He's one of the most passionate managers in the game and shows how much he cares about the club.

I don't give a toss what anyone else thinks of him.

I wouldn't have him any other way.

 
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Of course he's a bad loser. He's one of the most passionate managers in the game and shows how much he cares about the club.

I don't give a toss what anyone else thinks of him.

I wouldn't have him any other way.


Laughing

id be embarrassed frankly

 
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Of course he's a bad loser. He's one of the most passionate managers in the game and shows how much he cares about the club.

I don't give a toss what anyone else thinks of him.

I wouldn't have him any other way.


Laughing

id be embarrassed frankly



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11 trophies since 1996, two doubles, a whole season undeafeated and a Champions League final, new 60,000 seated stadium?

Yeah, well embarrassed Laughing

 
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living in the past son

 
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Of course he's a bad loser. He's one of the most passionate managers in the game and shows how much he cares about the club.

I don't give a toss what anyone else thinks of him.

I wouldn't have him any other way.


I don't believe he's a bad loser at all , i think a lot of people formed that opinion on his bust up with Padrue that time.But the fact that everyone ignores is that Pardue was out of order ,not by celebrating the goal ,but by leaving his box and going over to Wenger and doing it in his face. Whatever opinions people had about Wenger before that wether you thought he was arrogant, or that he plays too many foreigners or whatever your politics are no one really had a legitimate cause to hang the man by and the West ham game was as close as they could get. It's completely bogus ,and if you watch the game against Liverpool when adebayor was sent off ,everyone knew how upset Wenger was because he still had anger when interviewed ,but when the whistle blew he went straight to the 4 assistant and started complaining ,but when a member of liverpool staff caught his eye mid argument he instantly offered his hand to him in respect. He never held it against Liverpool ,he didn't accuse Liverpool of intimidating the officials so all the talk of him being a bad loser is garbage.
He's probably got more class and more honest than anyone else in the league actually ,so really don't don't mid going against the status quo here regarding Wenger.

 
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Ok so i watched the hi light show and saw the Penalty and from the angles THEY SHOWED it looked justified ,so that's all i will say concerning that.
But more seriously if Villa did send a member of staff to talk to the ref at the half ,then they are seeking some sort of advantage by it .That should be punished by the FA accordingly ,but i won't hold my breath.

 
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Ok so i watched the hi light show and saw the Penalty and from the angles THEY SHOWED it looked justified ,so that's all i will say concerning that.
But more seriously if Villa did send a member of staff to talk to the ref at the half ,then they are seeking some sort of advantage by it .That should be punished by the FA accordingly ,but i won't hold my breath.


thanks for your honesty.

for what its worth i agree that referee's should not be approached in the dressing room and it should be looked at. however my point, that wenger was talking crap in that the referee was influenced into giving the penalty, still stands.

 
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Ok so i watched the hi light show and saw the Penalty and from the angles THEY SHOWED it looked justified ,so that's all i will say concerning that.
But more seriously if Villa did send a member of staff to talk to the ref at the half ,then they are seeking some sort of advantage by it .That should be punished by the FA accordingly ,but i won't hold my breath.


thanks for your honesty.

for what its worth i agree that referee's should not be approached in the dressing room and it should be looked at. however my point, that wenger was talking crap in that the referee was influenced into giving the penalty, still stands.


What, even after watching what happened after the Hull game?

 
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Ok so i watched the hi light show and saw the Penalty and from the angles THEY SHOWED it looked justified ,so that's all i will say concerning that.
But more seriously if Villa did send a member of staff to talk to the ref at the half ,then they are seeking some sort of advantage by it .That should be punished by the FA accordingly ,but i won't hold my breath.


thanks for your honesty.

for what its worth i agree that referee's should not be approached in the dressing room and it should be looked at. however my point, that wenger was talking crap in that the referee was influenced into giving the penalty, still stands.


What, even after watching what happened after the Hull game?


what, that the referee gave the correct decision once again?

 
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Yeah after he was influenced though? whether it was the right decision or not doesn't change that fact he gave it, then changed his mind after being influenced by the Aston Villa players........... then consulting his assistant.

How many clubs would love to have such decisions reversed to the correct one! I could think of a whole hat full for Arsenal last season against Birmingham and Liverpool especially.

More to the point, I wish he'd given the correct decision with the Nicky Barmby incident!

 
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Yeah after he was influenced though? whether it was the right decision or not doesn't change that fact he gave it, then changed his mind after being influenced by the Aston Villa players........... then consulting his assistant.

How many clubs would love to have such decisions reversed to the correct one! I could think of a whole hat full for Arsenal last season against Birmingham and Liverpool especially.

More to the point, I wish he'd given the correct decision with the Nicky Barmby incident!


of course, we would all love it.

that is why the referee should be applauded and not condemned.

you are only bitter because it is Villa and they are your biggest threat this season.

 
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Not bitter at all.

We we're talking about referee's shouldn't be approached in the dressing room as Aston Villa did against Arsenal.

Then we saw the influence they had in the Hull game.

 
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“I’ve been accused of cheating by them in the past and yet when you catch one of them, they scream to try and earn you a booking. It’s a bit embarrassing really and in my eyes that’s cheating the referee,” Davies said.

“I spoke to Toure. He did one and I said, 'Come on, you are a big, strong man, I didn’t touch you, what are you doing?’ It’s a bit unneccessary really but they con the referee, get the free-kick out of it and some of their players are good at doing that.

“Clichy made a meal of one, he made no attempt to play the ball, I didn’t make any contact with him and then he was on top of the referee, trying to get me booked. He could have booked me easily with the screams they were making. It was like I was trying to kill someone.”

 
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That would have been a good quote.....














.....If it wasn't a load of bolloxs!

 
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We know how it works - it's a two way street.

Davies likes to elbow defenders and impose his physical side on the opposition, whereas the defenders know this and will try to get him booked to stop him doing it.

Jumping elbows first into defenders...defenders screaming in agony...both are cheating in my eyes, just two different forms of it.

 
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Davies is a clown. The commentator said that he and Clichy had issues before .Now when you look at Clichy's record you know he's not a cheat which makes Davies a bully. he just sounds like a man frustrated by his own physical failings ,Clichy runs rings around him on the regular. What makes Davies look bad is that fact that Clichy is probably one of the most honest and hardworking players in the entire league , but davies chose him to kick off the park. Outside of Barton ,a better definition of a coward you won't find!!!!!

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