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Re: Just Wondering

Legend

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spikeyd wrote:
Following on from these comments which of you actually play footie?


I do not play footie myself but I have been following it for a few years.
I have been to a lot of Arsenal Ladies' games
and I know they CAN play better than yesterday.
What they lack sometimes is a will to play as a team.
Everybody wants to be a star.
I don't have to play footie myself to be able to notice that.





smithy wrote:
Where the dugs out where along that side Smile .


We were on the opposite side Wink

Its just that...

Grass Roots

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Its easy to comment but not so easy to put into practice on the pitch x

Re: Its just that...

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spikeyd wrote:
Its easy to comment but not so easy to put into practice on the pitch x


Spikeyd please read my post above and think about it.
It is not easy for me to criticise the team I love.
But they are professional players, they have lots of trainings and it's their job to do well.
Like I said - I know they can do a lot better than they did on Sunday.
I've seen them play better many times.
And as a supporter and a fan I feel entitled to criticise them when they play like they did 2 days ago.
According to you only those who play football, know the game?

What are your views on football though?
If you don't have much to say about it, why deny others do that?
This is a discussion baord about football.

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Agreed.
Many fans do not play the game, however they pay the prices to go and watch the club week in week out. Fans who follow their team like that are of course entitled to give an opinion on how they saw the game, and how they feel the game went.

And just to back this up - there are football pundits out there who have never played the game, but have a job to criticise teams and players on how they perform.

Easy tiger!

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Where did I say:

Only those who play the game know the game?

How Am I:

Denying others?

And yes this is a football forum for discussing the game.

My apoligies, i could of sworn my question was football related?

Never mind x

Re: Easy tiger!

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spikeyd wrote:
Where did I say:
Only those who play the game know the game?

How Am I:
Denying others?


This is how we understood this comment of yours:

spikeyd wrote:
Its easy to comment but not so easy to put into practice on the pitch


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spikeyd wrote:
And yes this is a football forum for discussing the game.

My apoligies, i could of sworn my question was football related?


I was asking about your views on football, not football related questions.
Do you attend any games except your own? What are your views, comments?
You have not much to say about it,
except how little do we know about the game if we don't play footie ourselves.

Hmm

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Again i dont think i said how little people know if they dont play?

You seem to have taken this as some kind of personal attack which it was never intended to be so il bow out gracefully x

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Spikeyd I'm not the only person who reacted to your post
and understood your words the same way,
plus you still haven't answered my question, but whatever.

Have a good one and don't mind me Smile

Well...

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Your question 'what are my views on football' isnt very specific.

And yes someone else replied but it was more of a constructed opinion rather than a personal attack

Lesson learnt

Nuff said

x

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I think the questions I posted above:
"Do you attend any games except your own? What are your views, comments?" are quite specific.
You chose not to answer them so I take it you have not much to say about it.
This is not a personal attack, I'm just stating what I see.

Well...

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Yes i do attend games when im not playing.

But with regards to my comments and views on football, well i have many!

Tho have now learnt that a football forum of all places is not the place to air and share them!

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Why not Spikeyd? I'd love to read your views and comments.
Why are you saying that NOW you have learnt not to share them here?
You've never shared any. Please do so - I am really curious to your views on the games. Honest.

Thanx but no thanx

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Curiosity killed the cat!

Il keep my views to myself

Im sure you wont lose sleep.

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Couldn't get Eni better for Aluko
article on Charlton's site.

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Joy turned to frustration, and then ended in delight for two-goal cup final hero Eniola Aluko on Sunday.

Having scored the goals that gave the Charlton women's team the advantage in their Premier League Cup final against Arsenal, a recurrence of a niggling hamstring problem forced the England international striker from the field in the closing stages - to her obvious immense disappointment.

But even though that led to the introduction of the inexperienced Ashlee Hincks, making only her second senior appearance for the club, the Addicks held on to lift the first silverware of the 2005/06 season.

"I was a bit disappointed," laughed Eni when she spoke to the official website during the post-match celebrations.

"I wanted to stay on even though I was injured, but at the end of the day I'm no good to the team injured.

"I was so disappointed to come off, but what an occasion for Ashlee. That's her cup final debut and I was pleased for her."

Charlton emerged victorious against their great rivals to the tune of 2-1, with a Julie Fleeting strike near the end not enough for the Gunners in response to Aluko's first-half efforts.

It was the second time in three years that the Addicks had lifted the trophy - and was achieved despite an injury crisis that saw three players play out of position at Wycombe Wanderers' Causeway Stadium.

Central midfielder Maria Bertelli was enlisted at centre-half, left-back Eartha Pond provided a combative presence in the middle of the pitch, and England striker Amanda Barr worked the right wing.

And Aluko added: "I'm so proud of the team; proud of the way we defended and proud of the way we fought for each other.

"The likes of Casey Stoney, Karen Hills, Maz Bertelli - who has never played for us at centre-half before and was amazing - were all incredible.

"We knew that we could win if we played well and I'm just so happy we've won another trophy and put the critics to sleep, so to speak."

Aluko, who also scored the winning goal in last season's FA Cup final, found the net first with a neat lob and then slipped a shot under Republic of Ireland international Emma Byrne just before half-time.

"I'm really pleased with the goals, and with my finishing," she said.

"For the first I knew that if I could get in front of the defender, then it would just be a case of getting my technique right and thankfully it went in."

With one trophy in the Valley cabinet, Charlton are now targeting the treble, although Arsenal also stand in the way of success in the FA Cup and the Premier League.

"Winning the league cup final is extra special because it's against Arsenal, because we are the two top teams in the women's game," said Eni, who has now headed off to join up with the England set-up ahead of Thursday night's friendly against Iceland.

"We're absolutely delighted. We need to push on now. If we can pull out those kind of performances again there is nobody that can stop us.

"We can win the FA Cup and we can win the league and hopefully we can get into Europe next season."

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Curiosity killed the cat!

Il keep my views to myself

Im sure you wont lose sleep.


Spikey we would like to hear your views on football so please do not be put off. Smithy is a great member to the site, and gets on with all the members we have here - and I am sure you would also get on with her and the other members who post regularly in this section.

If not, then its a shame, but I would like to wish you the best.

Re: Just Wondering

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spikeyd wrote:
Following on from these comments which of you actually play footie?


I don't play. And what does your question have to do with the comments about the game?


spikeyd wrote:
Its easy to comment but not so easy to put into practice on the pitch x


Of course it's not that easy to put it into practise, but are you saying we shouldn't criticize a team or the players, even if it's good criticism? (Can be both good and bad!)

It's easy to comment others views, those who are willing to stand for their opinions (like Agent Smith), than share your own. It can be scary to have someone questioning you, but isn't that also a good way to learn something? To get another view on things? They can also make you stronger in your opinon, so I think you win either way.
I think a message board is the perfect place to share your opinions to others, but you also have to respect what others say. If you don't like it, say it, but you should explain why you don't like it or else it will be meaningless.

Re: Its just that...

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Agent Smith wrote:
spikeyd wrote:
Its easy to comment but not so easy to put into practice on the pitch x


Spikeyd please read my post above and think about it.
It is not easy for me to criticise the team I love.
But they are professional players, they have lots of trainings and it's their job to do well.
Like I said - I know they can do a lot better than they did on Sunday.
I've seen them play better many times.
And as a supporter and a fan I feel entitled to criticise them when they play like they did 2 days ago.
According to you only those who play football, know the game?

What are your views on football though?
If you don't have much to say about it, why deny others do that?
This is a discussion baord about football.


Remember they are not professional players. Pro players are people who work on their game 30-50 hours a week, and get paid an obscene amount of money. These girls prob train with their team mates twice a week if that. They will then do gym work, speed work and recovery work in their own time, around their full time jobs and looking after their families. Their rewards finanically are very little.

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Of course you are right lvblue, but what I meant was that they are more pro than I am Wink
(In answer to spikeyd's post).
I didn't mean financial aspects, I know they have to have jobs etc.
But they have trainings and they play almost every Sunday
and I have seen them play well and bad,
but last Sunday was the worst I've seen Arsenal play.
Maybe they got used to easy wins and Charlton had to remind them
that they are not the only unbeaten team in the league Wink

Re: Its just that...

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lvblue wrote:
Remember they are not professional players. Pro players are people who work on their game 30-50 hours a week, and get paid an obscene amount of money. These girls prob train with their team mates twice a week if that. They will then do gym work, speed work and recovery work in their own time, around their full time jobs and looking after their families. Their rewards finanically are very little.

I think we understand that lvblue, but when we went to Wycombe the other day, and there was an attendance of 3,506, we thought it just might have been possible that they they put in a better effort with us paying £5 to get in rather than the free entry away to Chelsea two weeks earlier, when about 100 turned up, and they played so much better.

Just my own thoughts there - don't intend to upset you or anyone Wink

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twm I have already explained to you why Arsenal lost Laughing

Just one last thing:
COME ON YOU LAAATICS!!!! WEEYYYYYY WOOOOOOOO YEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!! HAHA Arsenal ARE RUBBISH AT EVERYTHING! SUPPOSED TO BE AWESOME BUT COULDN'T MATCH THE MIGHTY CHARLTON ATHLETIC!! WEEEYYYYY Smile

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Hoi Hoopy - I know where you live Cool

Conn's on his way Wink

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Laugh all you want Happy Hoopy - NOBODY cares about the League Cups as EVERYONE on this board knows Twisted Evil

We'll beat Charlton in two weeks and win the FA Cup afterwards Cool
We'll see how you will be laughing then Twisted Evil

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I'll just have to have my fun while it lasts then and savour the moment, by the way I fully intend to.....






CHARLTON LADIES!!!!! WEEEYYYYYY!!!!!! 2-1!!!!!! Very Happy

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Hey Agent S - he won't be laughing - hitman Conn will have dealt with him by then Wink Laughing

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Well im hiring hitman Ron who lives very close to you twm, sleep with one eye open sunshine.



Oh sorry I forgot to mention; 2-1!!!!

LEAGUE CUP FINAL - venue confirmed
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