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  1. #581
    Quote Originally Posted by specnur View Post
    Silence because i been busy. I saw this story and initially i felt sad because she was of darker skin. I know that won't sit well with some here and i honestly do not give two sh!ts about that
    the killer would have, I'm sure, justify it by pointing out that by putting on that uniform every day this woman was a sambo. an argument that wouldn't look out of place in your own posting history.

    but you still wont see how your language is divisive and helps justify this sort of sh*t.

    black, white or other. it means nothing to me. here we have a woman killed in cold blood, execution style, for doing nothing more than her job. her job, ironically, was to try to make the streets safer for people like you and I.

    you can sympathise more based on her skin colour, that's your prerogative. i'll simply despair at yet another innocent life cut short by a complete and utter scumbag.

    Quote Originally Posted by specnur View Post
    It's not because i'm racist, as it will probably convenient for some here to believe ,it is because once you as a race make it a POINT to kill those that are killing you ,then there is a better chance that these CRACKERS will come to their f@cking senses. Nothing halts a bully like a punch on the nose ,enough is enough .All other options have been tried and exhausted we are literally being forced to go down a road that i feared we would ever get to. I am not sure about the details of this shooter ,but the chances are is that he is just one man maybe with mental issues, maybe not . But i would prefer him to be of "Sane" mind and belonging to an organization of likeminded individual ready to sacrifice for the cause ,that's the ONLY thing these cowards will listen to.
    is killing an innocent cop because she is a white cop more acceptable than killing an innocent cop just because she is a cop in your view then? there is a hierarchy of acceptance of killing innocents based on the victims ethnicity? how wonderful and progressive.

    the bloke is scum whatever his motivations. the world is well rid of him.

    quite how killing innocent cops is going to help improve relations between cops and black people is a mystery to me. it sounds very much like Pablo Escobar style diplomacy.

    it seems black kids having their parents lives cut short only matters if the killer happens to have a badge.


    Quote Originally Posted by specnur View Post
    I want to ask you something Steely if you were living in the US ,would you swap your colour from white to black ?
    The honest answer should bring some sense of understanding what it is we are dealing with here.
    what an incredibly odd question ffs

    I wouldn't swap my colour from white to black if I was living in any part of the world, including the entirety of Africa. I'd be amazed beyond belief if you'd tell me that you'd happily swap from black to white in any country in this world as well so I'm at a loss as to what point you're trying to make.

    I'd rather be a black man in the US than a black man in 99% of the worlds other countries though, I will say that much.

  2. #582
    Quote Originally Posted by eaman View Post
    Im sorry if that sounded racist to you but the reason I put decent in is you can still be a violent middle class person. It's the reason I put in criminal for a white man from a poor area coz there are plenty of decent non criminal living in poor areas. I could have said a white and black criminal from two poor areas but they would both probably be as violent as each other depending on upbringing or other circumstances. That table just shows that there are more black criminals and gang members in America than white. Obviously there are a few unjustified racist shootings in there but the number of whites killed by Whites tells me the cops are mostly not racist and just doing their job.
    If white people were killing as much whites as blacks should not the ratio be more like 1:6. So those numbers back Specnur's claim?

    Though I must say talking to Specnur is like walking a mind field it seems

  3. #583
    It took six of this particular brand of coward!
    I cannot imagine what this young man's family is going through right now ,having two son's just graduated with their life now fully ahead of them ,the dreams and goals all gone.
    When you see how black lives are treated in America ,you cannily expect this type of treatment for cowards such as this outside of America.
    R.I.P. young man.

    http://atlantablackstar.com/2017/07/...ians-arrested/

  4. #584
    Quote Originally Posted by specnur View Post
    Silence because i been busy.
    Watching Beverly Hills Cop.


    Quote Originally Posted by specnur View Post
    I saw this story and initially i felt sad because she was of darker skin.
    What the hell has the colour of her skin got to do with it? She had never done anything wrong other than doing her job and has a family at home.

    Specs has clearly lost it by being so obessed with race. Never mind the fact he's a raving racist and a perfect example of why the black community find themselves in the situations they find themselves in.

    Quote Originally Posted by specnur View Post
    I know that won't sit well with some here and i honestly do not give two sh!ts about that. It's not because i'm racist,
    Not 'just' because he 'IS' racist, but because he's a massive C U N T too.

    Quote Originally Posted by specnur View Post
    ,it is because once you as a race make it a POINT to kill those that are killing you ,then there is a better chance that these CRACKERS will come to their f@cking senses. Nothing halts a bully like a punch on the nose ,
    Kill those who haven't killed a single person in her life.

    Have I called him a Cunt already?
    Quote Originally Posted by specnur View Post
    All other options have been tried and exhausted we are literally being forced to go down a road that i feared we would ever get to.
    LIES. Exhausted what opinions?? Have the black community ever considered to STOP BREAKING THE LAW!?



    Quote Originally Posted by specnur View Post
    I am not sure about the details of this shooter ,but the chances are is that he is just one man maybe with mental issues, maybe not . But i would prefer him to be of "Sane" mind and belonging to an organization of likeminded individual ready to sacrifice for the cause ,that's the ONLY thing these cowards will listen to.
    "Mental issues" Haha! America's favourite new excuse for taking an innocent life.

    But Specs hopes this murdering mug is 'Sane' to prove a point.

    What a disgusting individual and typical of the only problem there is. 'Violent Black Culture'
    Arsene Wenger the "specialist in failure".

  5. #585
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely View Post
    the killer would have, I'm sure, justify it by pointing out that by putting on that uniform every day this woman was a sambo. an argument that wouldn't look out of place in your own posting history.
    Who knows?

    but you still wont see how your language is divisive and helps justify this sort of sh*t.
    Of course its divisive ,it's not meant to be ,but we have tried waiting for these people to come to their senses by fighting this scourge together and it hasn't worked .All it has done is blurred vision. It's time fro another option. After the abolition of slavery in the US blacks built their own town and it functioned at an economic rate superior to many all white cities at the time . That city was burned to the ground by jealous crackers killing everyone who could not escape ,the car is called "Black Wall Street" look it up . My point is ,we need to go back to that again ,now we can arm ourselves and protect ourselves with small increments of laws in our favour. Once we gain respect as a community on out won two feet again ,then we can come to the table again as separate entities in that country . There is no other option.

    black, white or other. it means nothing to me. here we have a woman killed in cold blood, execution style, for doing nothing more than her job. her job, ironically, was to try to make the streets safer for people like you and I.
    It mean nothing to you because your people haven't been the victims of genocide by the those who have held power over you.
    Your lack of perspective for a person as intelligent as you are is appalling if it is not purposeful. You continue to downplay or minimize the history of the black man's experience since he came into contact with the European.


    you can sympathise more based on her skin colour, that's your prerogative. i'll simply despair at yet another innocent life cut short by a complete and utter scumbag.
    Of curse i can , have you not seen the amount of unarmed black men murdered by government officials in that country just in theist 3 years ?
    You think people just go around killing cops for no known reason? Without a doubt each case will be linked to people just having enough of seeing their people not only unjustly murdered ,but to 99% of the time having their killers walk free. You must out of your damn mind if you think any people can take that shit from the the start of the European occupation of north America. You would have to have absolutely no pride or self worth. In fact we should hAvE NONE AT ALL giving what as a pole have gone through in that country . And as an old white Punk Rock singer said ,"White America couldn't handle what Black Americans have gone through in this country" and it the damn truth.


    is killing an innocent cop because she is a white cop more acceptable than killing an innocent cop just because she is a cop in your view then? there is a hierarchy of acceptance of killing innocents based on the victims ethnicity? how wonderful and progressive.
    Sadly yes ! because it is sending a message that needs to heard loud and clear to the people that are culling us at will. Our lives are not cheap.
    You are Assuming this woman was innocent by the way lets not forget that shall we. She was local cop by all accounts known to the local area if not only by face.
    So who knows what interactions she has had . She may well be a honest cop doing her job .It's not that i have no sympathy for her or even ion it were a white cop gunned down . I would have sympathy if they were honest cops ,but i think what we are seeing over theist few years with this cops killing us is more important than the life of a few "innocent cops". And lets just remember this while we are here . I can guarantee you without a shadow ion doubt ,if that innocent cop saw one of her fellow officers doing something illegal she wouldn't turn him in ,especially if it were in the act of an arrest of a criminal. So how innocent are they really?


    the bloke is scum whatever his motivations. the world is well rid of him.
    That's your opinion and it wold be the opinion of many whites i America also ,because they see any cop as an entity out there to PROTECT THEM and not my kind.

    quite how killing innocent cops is going to help improve relations between cops and black people is a mystery to me. it sounds very much like Pablo Escobar style diplomacy.
    As i said , directly it won't ,but it will start the ball rolling in the right direction eventually. It is thinly option that i feel a lot of African Americans feel they have left . We been through everything else at least twice already . Waited patiently for equal justice under law ,but all we are seeing is the most egregious failures in the justice system in recent memory. It just can't get worse than this for us.

    it seems black kids having their parents lives cut short only matters if the killer happens to have a badge.
    Well that's just your ignorance of life in black America .
    Like we don't feel pain like you do!
    How would you know that is the case ?
    When we are told the role of the police officer is to protect ALL Americans and yet they are gunning us down at an alarming rate and waling free ,it signaled to us that our lives are worth less than that of other "humans". We are fighting against that notion set by government officials . Just take that in for a minute. The people who control the country are setting the tone for white America . Why do you think crackers like Zimmerman feels he has the right to and freedom to shoot a kid with arg of candy in his hand because he was wearing a hoody in his area ?



    what an incredibly odd question ffs
    It's a serious question ,but maybe given some of your comments above a meaningless one as you seem to be in denial about the plight of blacks in America of the course of the countries young history up until today.

    I wouldn't swap my colour from white to black if I was living in any part of the world, including the entirety of Africa. I'd be amazed beyond belief if you'd tell me that you'd happily swap from black to white in any country in this world as well so I'm at a loss as to what point you're trying to make.
    No would not ,because history is not on your side as a people. I wouldn't saddle myself with that baggage for anything .

    I'd rather be a black man in the US than a black man in 99% of the worlds other countries though, I will say that much.
    And why is that exactly ?
    You really don't have a clue or are in complete and utter denial of the residual affects of 400 years of institutionalized racism!
    You OBVIOUSLY believe that black people have a predisposition to violent self destructive behavior , there can't be any other rational behind you uttering such nonsense.
    All that Eurocentric crap being taught in the west has got your head up your @ss homie!
    Black on black murder is a direct result of race based slavery and nothing else.
    so in a nutshell what you have are blacks killing black ,acting totally out of character of what they were like BEFORE the European got to them.
    We went from being the most advanced people on the planet giving Europe their first universities and libraries to what you see in modern America which in many cases can only be the lowest form of black life morally in many cases. If you can start to understand this fact of responsibility of Europe's creation of what has manifested itself in the black communities worldwide wide, then you are half way there mate. Anything else is basically calling black folk subhuman by default.

  6. #586
    Quote Originally Posted by eaman View Post
    Im sorry if that sounded racist to you but the reason I put decent in is you can still be a violent middle class person. It's the reason I put in criminal for a white man from a poor area coz there are plenty of decent non criminal living in poor areas. I could have said a white and black criminal from two poor areas but they would both probably be as violent as each other depending on upbringing or other circumstances. That table just shows that there are more black criminals and gang members in America than white. Obviously there are a few unjustified racist shootings in there but the number of whites killed by Whites tells me the cops are mostly not racist and just doing their job.
    mate the number of whites killed by whites is 82% the number of black killed by blacks is 90%
    So i ask you this, if the number are so close why are we not seeing more innocent white men and women gunned down by white cops?
    Especially when you consider that black on black crime is committed in a pretty contained area of each city.
    We don't go into schools and cinema's shooting children and students and movie goers like our white counterparts .


    The thing you are missing here seaman is this .
    White are more at risk at being killed by other whites than by blacks ,this is fact .
    Yet the fear of whites of blacks is what drives them top accept with cops killing innocent black men and refusing to lock them up.
    Blacks kill other blacks because 400 years of dehumanization does that!
    To believe that black always killed other blacks for little or no reason is racist and and unfounded. As it never happened before the black man interacted with the European. I have said it before and i'll say it again . Race was always a white man problem ,black folks or any other race for that matter never give a sh!t about race. White people created race based slavery ,this is a fact , which is why we devalue our own lives over the course of 400 years of mental conditioning under the European.

    Now to make something clear that Steely will probably again try and blur the point with ,when i say white people i do not mean ALL white people it is in general for European establishments or countries.
    Last edited by specnur; 11-07-2017 at 08:29 PM.

  7. #587
    No doubt white people's ancestors in America are the reason there are so many black criminals. They took them from their homes and disgracefully enslaved them and then when slavery was abolished they had to live in ghettos and were treated terribly for generations. For this reason there are more black criminals than white and so there are more black criminals shot. But the stats show there are plenty of white criminals shot also. Of course there are wrongful shootings of unarmed men which some are probably racist and some are probably down to the cops being jumpy. Also the gun laws over there don't help

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  9. #589
    Quote Originally Posted by eaman View Post
    Im sorry if that sounded racist to you but the reason I put decent in is you can still be a violent middle class person. It's the reason I put in criminal for a white man from a poor area coz there are plenty of decent non criminal living in poor areas. I could have said a white and black criminal from two poor areas but they would both probably be as violent as each other depending on upbringing or other circumstances. That table just shows that there are more black criminals and gang members in America than white. Obviously there are a few unjustified racist shootings in there but the number of whites killed by Whites tells me the cops are mostly not racist and just doing their job.
    mate the number of whites killed by whites is 82% renumber of black killed by blacks is 90%
    So i ask you this, if the number are so close why are we not seeing more innocent white men and women gunned down by white cops?
    Especially when you consider that black on black crime is committed in a pretty contained area of each city.
    We don't go into schools and cinema's shooting children and students and movie goers like our white counterparts .


    The thing you are missing here seaman is this .
    White are more at risk at being killed by other whites than by blacks ,this is fact .
    Yet the fear of whites of blacks is what drives them top accept with cops killing innocent black men and refusing to lock them up.
    Blacks kill other blacks because 400 years of dehumanization does that!
    To believe that black always killed other blacks for little or no reason is racist and and unfounded. As it never happened before the black man interacted with the European. I have said it before and i'll say it again . Race was always a white man problem ,black folks or any other race for that matter never give a sh!t about race. White people created race based slavery ,this is a fact , which is why we devalue our own lives over the course of 400 years of mental conditioning under the European.

    Now to make something clear that Steely will probably again try and blur the point with ,when i say white people i do not mean ALL white people it is in general for European establishments or countries.

  10. #590
    Quote Originally Posted by eaman View Post
    No doubt white people's ancestors in America are the reason there are so many black criminals. They took them from their homes and disgracefully enslaved them and then when slavery was abolished they had to live in ghettos and were treated terribly for generations. For this reason there are more black criminals than white and so there are more black criminals shot. But the stats show there are plenty of white criminals shot also. Of course there are wrongful shootings of unarmed men which some are probably racist and some are probably down to the cops being jumpy. Also the gun laws over there don't help
    I am not sure if there are more black criminals than white Eaman .If you have stats to back that up then cool . But i think you are assuming that because of the news sources you use.
    I'll say this though black are locked up for crimes whites don't do a day of jail time for .Like drug possession and the like.
    That is institutionalized racism to this day. There is absolutely no escaping it ,the system is not created to be equal it is created and designed to maintain control.

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