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Thread: Guardiola to leave Bayern Munich/Ancelotti out

  1. #71
    Never mind serious challenge, Guardiola has to win either the
    PL or CL or better still both trophies this season to justify the huge
    amounts of money spent by Man City on transfer fees or he will be
    a failure. remember last season was first time he had ever finished
    a campaign with out winning a single trophy,City couldnt even win league or FA Cup!

  2. #72
    With Neymar signing forn £200 million you have to say that now Guardiola looks pretty good with his purchases in today's market.

    The amount of players he's signed for two thirds of Neymar's amount shows how well he's played.

    If he wins the English Premiership now then Pep has to go down as the second best manager ever, just behind 1st place which is Herbert Chapman of Arsenal.

  3. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokers View Post

    If he wins the English Premiership now then Pep has to go down as the second best manager ever


    That's a joke, right?
    Raúl González Over 400 career goals, 3 UCL, 6 La Liga, Top scorer in history of UCL and Spain's national team for a decade, captain of one of the best generations of players in Real Madrid history.

  4. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Raul View Post


    That's a joke, right?
    Never been more serious in my life snowflake.

  5. #75

    In his first season as manager, Guardiola guided Barcelona to a treble, winning La Liga, the Copa del Rey and the UEFA Champions League. In doing so, Guardiola became the youngest manager to win the Champions League. The following season, Guardiola led Barcelona to win the Supercopa de España, the UEFA Super Cup, the FIFA Club World Cup and a second La Liga title. In 2011, after leading Barcelona to another La Liga, Supercopa de España and UEFA Champions League, Guardiola was awarded the Catalan Parliament's Gold Medal, their highest honour.[9] That same year, Guardiola was also named the FIFA World Coach of the Year.[10] In Guardiola's fourth season, he won the Copa del Rey, UEFA Super Cup, FIFA Club World Cup and the Supercopa de España. On 30 June 2012, Guardiola announced his departure from Barcelona.

    After a sabbatical period, Bayern Munich announced on 16 January 2013 that Guardiola would join the club as manager for the 2013–14 season following the retirement of Jupp Heynckes. In his first season at the club, Guardiola won the Bundesliga, the DFB-Pokal, the UEFA Super Cup and the FIFA Club World Cup. He finished his term at Bayern with seven trophies won, winning the Bundesliga all three seasons he was there, including two domestic doubles.

    As a manager, Guardiola won 14 trophies in the first four years of his managing career. He is one of the most successful managers in the world and is considered by a number of players, managers and commentators to be one of the best managers in the world.[11][12][13]

  6. #76
    Yeah He's won a lot of things, but always with superb teams. That Barça team was one of the best in history, yet He couldn't handle the pressure when Mourinho made Real compete. He won three bundesliga tittles in a row with Bayern Munich... come on, I would be surprised if He'd won them with Schalke 04, Hertha Berlin or Wolfsbourg, but Bayern wins nearly every year. Plus they were UCL champions when Heynckes left and wasn't able to retain the trophy.

    Great manager, of course, but only when He's got the best squad.

    Give some credit to Simeone, San Paoli, Ranieri and some others who are able to win tittles without having the best players.
    Raúl González Over 400 career goals, 3 UCL, 6 La Liga, Top scorer in history of UCL and Spain's national team for a decade, captain of one of the best generations of players in Real Madrid history.

  7. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Raul View Post
    Yeah He's won a lot of things, but always with superb teams. That Barça team was one of the best in history, yet He couldn't handle the pressure when Mourinho made Real compete. He won three bundesliga tittles in a row with Bayern Munich... come on, I would be surprised if He'd won them with Schalke 04, Hertha Berlin or Wolfsbourg, but Bayern wins nearly every year. Plus they were UCL champions when Heynckes left and wasn't able to retain the trophy.

    Great manager, of course, but only when He's got the best squad.

    Give some credit to Simeone, San Paoli, Ranieri and some others who are able to win tittles without having the best players.
    Not sure the Mourinho pressure story stacks up considering they're both in the same league again.

    Also, Bayern didn't have the bundesliga in the bag ever year. Didn't Dortmund win the league back to back under Klopp before Pep arrived somewhere?

    I don't think it's a given right either that if a team wins the Champions League then it automatically should be seen as a failure if you don't retain it. Anyone worth their weight should know by now that the CL is a Cup competition and can be as much about luck as well as a good team.

  8. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely View Post
    The Mourinho pressure story stacks up perfectly considering that Guardiola walked at the first sign of a challenge. Mourinho's Madrid OUTSCORED Guardiola's Barcelona in BOTH of the seasons they competed against each other before Guardiola jumped ship when Mourinho took the league title.

    did you know that, across the full 2016/17 season (all comps), Guardiola recorded a LOWER points per game average than your boy Arsene? he finished a meagre three points ahead of Arsenal in a season of utter chaos for your team and failed to win any competition he entered.

    Shambles.

    Yet Pep still finished above both those managers in his first ever shot at in the English league with a squad that saw the Last of the Summer wine all depart a few months ago.

    I would fully expect a manager who has been in this league 20 f**king years longer to return a better points per game average ffs.

    And Arsenal weren't in anymore chaos than what they have been in years..

    In fact, Arsène said we improved our points compared to the previous season, so.....

    Also, never mind the two key injuries on Pep's two big signings last season.

  9. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely View Post
    from the 2016/17 Premier League prediction thread:





    fell woefully short of even your own expectations.


    In hindsight I'd say last season was a bigger challenge for Guardiola when you consider the players that have now left because of their age and the major injuries that were unexpected.

  10. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely View Post
    and yet both those managers finished the season with a trophy. remind me what you get for finishing third again Arsene

    just so we're clear, Arsene Wenger - a man who you think is the worst manager in Arsenal's history - recorded a higher points per game ratio that Guardiola AND won a trophy during the season. but Guardiola is among the BEST managers the world has ever known.

    Guardiola's points tally wouldn't have won the league in any season. show me a club that doesn't get injuries ffs!
    What do you mean higher points per game? He finished below Guardiola in the league? also there is no proof he left barca coz of mourinho. He has said he doesn't like to spend too long in one job. He won the league with bayern yet he still left so that proves that

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