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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Hams View Post
    Not to mention Jeremy the Marxist's support for the IRA,Hamas,Hezbollah etc.
    How could anybody vote Labour knowing that this so called politician backs these terrorists?
    I take it your perfectly okay with the Tories funding and arming the Saudi terrorists?.

    Voted on my way to work this morning. I expect the SNP to retain the seat here, there is a bit of a fight on from the Lib Dems but im pretty sure Ian Blackford is home and dry.

    As for the rest of it i don't think ill bother watching the results - just too depressing.

  2. #122
    Tories are the biggest party but without a majority according to the exit poll!!!!.

    If the results are correct it looks like it will be a Tory minority government as i cant see any coalition forming with Labour as it will take about 6 or 7 parties!.

    Theresa May has gambled and lost big time!.

    I'm not sure where the SNP have gone?. Is this where Labour have picked up seats?.

    Exciting night ahead after all!.

  3. #123
    Shocking Exit Poll result

    It does look like May's general election call has backfired.

    Its still early

    The Exit poll predicted that Ed Milliband would win last
    general election in 2015 and that Remain would win the Brexit vote and got both wrong.

    I will be shocked if Labour has taken back so many seats from SNP in Scotland.

  4. #124
    I take it your perfectly okay with the Tories funding and arming the Saudi terrorists?.
    No I'm not as the Saudi's are giving weapons to jihadists in Syria to fight against President Assad.

  5. #125
    Fair play to Jeremy Corbyn. He's run the best campaign and has shown the best leadership.
    Arsene Wenger the "specialist in failure".

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokerkings View Post
    Fair play to Jeremy Corbyn. He's run the best campaign and has shown the best leadership.
    I have to agree with you Pokers.

    It looks like Jeremy Corbyn is going to be PM so congrats on your win.

    This looks like its going to be the worst ever defeat for the Tories in a general election.

    Cons will have to look for a new leader.

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Hams View Post
    I have to agree with you Pokers.

    It looks like Jeremy Corbyn is going to be PM so congrats on your win.

    This looks like its going to be the worst ever defeat for the Tories in a general election.

    Cons will have to look for a new leader.
    A tad too early to predict a Labour win Hams, but I have to say I'm enjoying seeing the smug smiles disappear from Tory and SNP faces in the early hours!
    He's magic you kno-oow, Mauricio Poch-ett-ino!

  8. #128
    Its a hung parliament.

    Tories have 316 seats with Labour on 261

    Theresa May is to make a speech at 10 am.

    I'm shocked at how badly the SNP did in Scotland also.

    I guess there wont be a second independence referendum now!

    It was a shock to see former leader Alex Salmon lose his seat and ex Lid Dem leader Nick Clegg!!

    The PM has no plans to resign.

    Cons will likely team up with DUP in N.Ireland to get past winning line of 326.

  9. #129
    politics really is funny. basically nobody won from this election.

    the SNP had a nightmare at a time they'd have been expecting IndyRef momentum, the Tories lost their majority and Labour trailed desperately behind them, despite a manifesto of basically 'free stuff for everyone'. UKIP all but vanished and the Lib Dems remain non-runners after still being tainted by 2010.

    there is a lot of hysteria though and you'd think Labour had actually won based on the reactions and the crowds around Labour HQ which I passed this morning.

    the Tories only lost something like 12 seats. I've not yet looked at what seats they are but I'd bet on them being Leave voters that were enticed by Corbyn's 'free stuff' pledges, and fair play to them if that's what would suit their situations.

    May screwed up with her arrogance in assuming she'd hoover up the Leavers by daring to scrap free school meals for infants which I know for a fact many parents voted on that policy alone. the election was hers for the taking but she lacked the character to pull her party through it. I expect she'll hang around to see Brexit through but I reckon she'll step down for the next election.

    I'm not sure where Corbyn goes from here. while he did improve the returns of Miliband's Labour, he only achieved a few more seats than Gordon Brown did in 2010 and so it is most unlikely he would be a likely winner in four years time. Labour need to identify the person to take over from Corbyn as soon and as smoothly as possible as that next election is, I think, there's to win.

    all told, I think the result is generally good for the country because it pegs back the Tories which will hopefully lead to a dilution of some policies with more of a Labour tilt on some things. May's job is simple now, hold her hands up to some of her errors and concentrate full throttle on Brexit. with the DUP likely coming aboard and the SNP losing considerable ground, the UK itself is likely to be more aligned than they have been for years which, contrary to many opinions I'm reading this morning, should put us in good stead for strong negotiations.

    interesting times.

  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by Pokerkings View Post
    Fair play to Jeremy Corbyn. He's run the best campaign and has shown the best leadership.
    I'm not sure that he has really. I always say that electioneering from the position of opposition is clearly a hell of a lot easier than campaigning as the serving government. I'm sure you would agree with that.

    however, in what was basically a two horse race with UKIP losing their reason for existing and the Lib Dems being a dead duck I would have expected a tighter race.

    as I explained a while back in the Brexit thread, Corbyn had a nightmare with that. UKIP and Leave voters, economically, were largely traditional Labour voters. by campaigning and voting the opposite way I think he alienated himself and his party and led to a position of distrust. you can look back at my posts then and see that I was eagerly awaiting his input and to see this career campaigner in action when in the spotlight. his limp wristed approach was an instant turn off.

    it is easy to convince students to vote for you when you're offering free university. just ask Nick Clegg. however it is less easy to convince weather beaten and downtrodden voters that graft for pittance after you've spent your time arguing in favour of free movement of people that has decimated many industries that are proportionally more represented by the working classes.

    it was all uphill from there, for me. and he didn't do nearly enough. his statements on the terror attacks were weak. his explanations for the costings for his manifesto were basically non-existent and he had a shadow cabinet of London luvvies that have a disdain for the average person that they do not even bother to hide.

    he ended up winning three more seats than Gordon Brown managed. that doesn't signal much of a success in my book.

    I asked you yesterday to make your case for Corbyn. your response was generic platitudes. that, for me, says it all.

    with a better leader Labour will win the next general election. you can quote me on that.

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