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  1. #181
    That was an expensive deal between The Tories and The DUP.

    I think its worth though as long as we don't have any more elections
    until after Brexit.

    The Irish now have an extra 1 Billion so lets hope they spend it wisely.

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus View Post
    So even though Corbyns popularity is rising and he gained more votes and seats than his moderate predecessor and that his policies are proving more and more popular your still sure that replacing him with somebody else is a sure fire route to success even though you don't know who or what they stand for?!
    obviously i'm not saying get rid and pick a random name out of the hat, i'm (perhaps naively) assuming there is somebody within the Labour party with decent enough credentials to run with the baton. i'm sure, for example, that Sadiq Khan has an eye on the leadership. however i'd certainly not put him forward as a man likely to win a general election.

    i don't follow the Labour party closely enough to know the runners and riders and can only judge what's in front of me. i simply can't envisage Corbyn winning a general election.

    Corbyn's Glastonbury performance typifies what i mean. a bloke preaching to thousands of middle class white people who have paid 250 for tickets to an event that charges 5 a pint and about 10 a burger all virute signalling about the suffering and plight of people on the breadline. i find it cringeworthy, personally. preaching to the converted is easy, convincing the masses is a whole other ball game.

    Labour don't need to do much to win the next election. Brexit will be over, people will have grown naturally weary of the serving government and alternatives always look positive compared to the status quo. his alternatives are too far the other way in what is a generally centre right country.

    lets say he runs again in the next GE and gains another dozen seats. what then? go again and hope for another dozen in four years time? you're still coming away as a loser.


    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus View Post
    The Tories have finally done deal with the DUP to allow them to cling to power. It has taken 3 and a half weeks - which is 3 and a half times longer than the DUP beleive is took God to create the Earth! - no wonder Theresa May thinks she's a 'bloody difficult woman to deal with'!


    and the Lord said, Let there be shite.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus View Post
    In other news my local MP Ian Blackford has been named the new SNP leader in Westminster.
    just read up on him, quite an interesting choice. former banker sacked as SNP treasurer for not toeing the line and fighting against Salmond's spending.

  3. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely View Post
    obviously i'm not saying get rid and pick a random name out of the hat.
    I Think that's how they decided on Owen Smith to run against Corbyn last year!.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steely View Post
    Corbyn's Glastonbury performance typifies what i mean. a bloke preaching to thousands of middle class white people who have paid 250 for tickets to an event that charges 5 a pint and about 10 a burger all virute signalling about the suffering and plight of people on the breadline. i find it cringeworthy, personally. preaching to the converted is easy, convincing the masses is a whole other ball game.
    I Think its trying to reach to the non voters of which im sure there are quite a few at Glasto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steely View Post
    lets say he runs again in the next GE and gains another dozen seats. what then? go again and hope for another dozen in four years time? you're still coming away as a loser.
    If he gets a dozen seats from the Tories then he becomes PM!. Albiet in a 'Coalition of Chaos' and that's if the numbers stay the same in the other parties and if the Tories manage to hold onto their gains in Scotland, which seems unlikely now that indref2 has been postponed until 2019.

  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus View Post
    I Think that's how they decided on Owen Smith to run against Corbyn last year!..
    given how incompetent his campaign was I have my suspicions that he was pro-Corbyn all along and planted there to increase his support


    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus View Post
    I Think its trying to reach to the non voters of which im sure there are quite a few at Glasto..
    I'm not so sure about that, Glastonbury has always been the more politically conscious of the music festivals. that crowd is his natural habitat, for sure.

    I should say that I'm not against such grandstanding amongst crowds, its just that I think the captive audience of festival goers is not the best method. certainly, if i was there and had to endure that tiresome 'Jeremy corbyn chant' i would ensure that my vote would go anywhere and everywhere except him. it had the ring of North Korea to it. would be interesting to see him going on a series of Trump style rallies around the country, particularly in non Labour areas.

    personally speaking, I'm itching to vote Labour. I just can't get behind him and I think his manifesto was desperate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus View Post
    If he gets a dozen seats from the Tories then he becomes PM!. Albiet in a 'Coalition of Chaos' and that's if the numbers stay the same in the other parties and if the Tories manage to hold onto their gains in Scotland, which seems unlikely now that indref2 has been postponed until 2019.
    if he gets a dozen seats from the Tories he still has fewer seats than them. sure he may do a deal with the SNP but in a post-IndyRef2 world, what life is there in the SNP and what would it mean to jump into bed with them whichever way a referendum went?

    if the current situation is a clusterf*ck then who knows what that would bring.

  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely View Post
    Corbyn's Glastonbury performance typifies what i mean. a bloke preaching to thousands of middle class white people who have paid 250 for tickets to an event that charges 5 a pint and about 10 a burger all virute signalling about the suffering and plight of people on the breadline. i find it cringeworthy, personally. preaching to the converted is easy, convincing the masses is a whole other ball game.
    Partially true, majority BOLLOCKS!
    I was there and i can say that most of those kids probably saved up a year to attend this event that basically rids them of the daily grind for a weekend.
    He was reaching out to people that will make difference down the road including them in the democratic process any showing that he hears them ,can the conservatives say that? Leave it out.

    He is about as genuine a man of the pole as you will get on the political horizon right now ,he may not be perfect but he was there fighting the good fight when it was;t popular and because his conscience told him. those kids sent a message to then conservatives that made it clear to the country they are completely and utterly out of touch with the future generations of this country.

    Its s hilarious hearing some of the reactions for conservatives after he attended Glastonbury , disgusting ba@sta@rds!
    Last edited by specnur; 29-06-2017 at 12:53 PM.

  6. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by specnur View Post
    Partially true, majority BOLLOCKS!
    I was there and i can say that most of those kids probably saved up a year to attend this event that basically rids them of the daily grind for a weekend.
    He was reaching out to people that will make difference down the road including them in the democratic process any showing that he hears them ,can the conservatives say that? Leave it out.

    He is about as genuine a man of the pole as you will get on the political horizon right now ,he may not be perfect but he was there fighting the good fight when it was;t popular and because his conscience told him. those kids sent a message to then conservatives that made it clear to the country they are completely and utterly out of touch with the future generations of this country.

    Its s hilarious hearing some of the reactions for conservatives after he attended Glastonbury , disgusting ba@sta@rds!
    I can imagine you now, chanting away.

    OOOOOOH JE-RE-MY CORRRRBYN!

    I think you underestimate the reliance on the bank of mum and dad.

  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely View Post
    I can imagine you now, chanting away.

    OOOOOOH JE-RE-MY CORRRRBYN!

    I think you underestimate the reliance on the bank of mum and dad.

    Not a chance mate ,i was working at the time . I do what i have to do and get out, just too old for that . Missed John Cooper Clarke the only real reason i would have hung about. The Toilets ,i swear , have to be one of the worst stenches to ever enter my nostrils. Almost wretched immediately. Must have been filled with tories after Corbyn battered them in the popularity stakes!

  8. #188
    C4 news reader Jon Snow was allegedly heard shouting
    "fuck the Tories" during the Glastonbury festival and has been urged to quit his job.

  9. #189
    Surely that's more worthy of a promotion!!
    Arsene Wenger the "specialist in failure".

  10. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by Steely View Post
    personally speaking, I'm itching to vote Labour. I just can't get behind him and I think his manifesto was desperate.
    I find it hard to believe that you would be 'itching' to vote for anyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steely View Post
    if he gets a dozen seats from the Tories he still has fewer seats than them. sure he may do a deal with the SNP but in a post-IndyRef2 world, what life is there in the SNP and what would it mean to jump into bed with them whichever way a referendum went?

    if the current situation is a clusterf*ck then who knows what that would bring.
    Apparently the next Indpendence referendum is expected to be 2020 now. A General Election is likely before then.

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